Laws and gidence surrounding pubs and nightclubs in the UK.

Category: Let's talk

Post 1 by DrummerD (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 23-Oct-2014 19:48:25

As a few of you might know, I go out to a lot of pubs and nightclubs in my area. While I don't make it a habit, I sometimes go out to them on my own. I have had no problem at all with pubs, especially my local who've always welcomed me with open arms. I have, however almost always had trouble with nightclubs refusing to let me in when I've shown up at the door with noone with me. While I understand its not the safest thing I could be doing, I pick my nights carefully and make sure if I do try to go in on my own, its at a night I've been to enough times that I'm familior with the kind of people that come in, the general layout of the venue, and the sise and accessibility of the croud. Currently, there is only one nightclub in my area that I would consider attending if I was with someone or not. Some background:

The nightclub in question is one I've frequently attended on and off for 4 years. Downstairs, is a Live venue, where bands play funk and soul covers for most of the week. On a thursday, there is a jam night that runs, in which musicians can get up and play with the house band. I've been to this nightclub so much so that a few of the doormen recognise me, I've had conversations with a lot of the band members, and even the manigers and owners on rare occasions. I've mapped out most of the venue, anything I don't know could be easily tought. What I want to know, is should I be able to get into the nightclub, considering I've been there a number of years and generally know the pase of the night and what not. Any advice would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks,

Dwight

Post 2 by Scarlett (move over school!) on Thursday, 23-Oct-2014 23:33:26

I don't see why not. Surely refusing you entry violates disability discrimination laws? Unless you're completely drunk then I think they can do that to anyone.

Post 3 by DrummerD (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 24-Oct-2014 8:16:22

You would think that, but when I've been refused entry before, I think it was something to do with them being directly responsable for me if I were to get harmed. Maybe something insureance related. I'm not too sure, it was a long time ago. Currently ringing people and reading long documents to see if I can find anything.

Post 4 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Friday, 24-Oct-2014 11:00:20

Bouncers are dicks when it comes to blindness & quite a few other things as well; trying to convince them that you have nystagmus & that you're not off your face on some form of mindbending substance can be tricky. I know it doesn't really answer your question, but for other people who may be reading this, I find it helps if you make sure a girl's guideing you as you attempt to go in. Obviously it's completely wrong that this should make a difference but it's just how things are.

Post 5 by DrummerD (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 24-Oct-2014 17:08:29

You're totally right, I found that I've had far less hassle with just about everything when I've with a girl they think they can easily impress. Imagine the surprise when they discover she has far more brains than they do.

Update: Success! No nightclub should have a leg to stand on with regards to letting me in or not, they're actually breaking the law if they don't. I'm going to speak with the management of the one I go to a lot, and see if I can releave him of his concerns without having to get all official and stuff. Perfect time to crack one open me thinks!

See you all on the other side of my hangover.

Post 6 by Ed_G (Zone BBS is my Life) on Saturday, 25-Oct-2014 3:45:33

Hi. Yes, they should let you in regardless of whether or not you've been there
before. However, they're probably trying to play the health and safety card. I
never tried to go to nightclubs on my own (I prefer pubs over clubs), but I'd say
that about 40% of the time I had some form of difficulty getting in which
sometimes I resolved and sometimes couldn't. I had the health and safety card
played a few times, but mainly been refused because they thought that holding
someone's arm must mean that I was drunk. Interestingly my experiences
didn't vary when I went abroad, similar things happened in France and
Germany. However, this was offset a bit by the number of times I was waved
in free.